Why do National Co-Ordinators upload activator logs?

[Paul]

Hi,

Can someone on the WWFF Decision Team please advise why National Co-Ordinators are required to upload activator logs?

This can be a time-consuming process.

Is there a reason why activators cannot upload their own logs?

I look forward to your response.

73 and 44

Paul VK5PAS
VKFF & ZLFF National Co-Ordinator

[Andrew M0YMA]

Quite simply, the quality of logs *after being checked by National Coordinators* is bad enough…

[Paul]

Hi Andrew,

Thanks for your reply, although your response has not answered my question. Your response was a statement, rather than an answer, implying that National Co-Ordinators were not appropriately checking logs.

I am looking at ways of streamlining the process and reducing the amount of work for National Co-Ordinators/VK State and Territory reps.

Currently, if an error is detected at the log upload stage, the uploader receives an auto-generated message from Logsearch. The uploader then either modifies the log themselves or returns the log to the activator for the appropriate modification/s.

I am not sure why activators cannot upload their own logs and receive such a message themselves and then undertake the appropriate log modification.

This would streamline the log upload process and reduce the amount of work for Co-Ordinators.

Other programs allow activators to upload their own logs. I am not sure why WWFF does not allow this?

Regards,

Paul VK5PAS.

[(KI6BTY)]

This explains why I cannot upload my logs. What a crock! All the other programs out there let you upload logs. POTA, SOTA, DX Marathon, all contests. What’s up with this? As someone who is new to the program and spent several minutes trying to figure out how to upload, this is a MASSIVE turnoff.

[Andrew M0YMA]

I’m sorry you feel that way, KI6BTY…

On the other hand, a quick look in the Log Corrections sub-forum will show the number of errors that get uploaded after being checked by the Log Manager.

Various improvements are on the drawing board, but are mostly constrained by the simple fact that I don’t have the spare time, and other volunteers are few (while acknowledging the few that are assisting!).

[Andrew M0YMA]

@Paul – the upload checks catch obvious errors in the ADIF, but cannot trap (eg) wrong date(s), wrong activated reference(s), wrong station/operator callsign(s)…

I fully accept that a Log Manager ius unlikely to detect the various wrong bands, wrong hunter references, wrong hunter callsigns…

Fundamentally, activators need to be more careful in their logging!

[(SM1HEV)]

@Andrew: If the log manager cannot detect and correct these log errors, what is the role of the (overworked) log manager – other than being a bottleneck?
If activators are also able to re-upload their logs, they could be responsible for any log corrections (which I think would be the proper way of dealing with corrections).

[(SM1HEV)]

@Andrew: If the log manager cannot detect and correct these log errors, what is the role of the (overworked) log manager – other than being a bottleneck?
If activators are also able to re-upload their logs, they could be responsible for any log corrections (which I think would be the proper way of dealing with corrections).

[(E78CB)]

Hello, WFF friends!

I have a problem that log manager for E7 is not active for some time (Bob, E77O). I send him two times my activation log but he just doesn’t put i trough and I can see on this site that my activation is jet not entered.
Now, I am not going to get in the reasons for this, but I am asking is there another address where I can sent or upload my log to be processed?

Thanks, 73

Srdjan, E78CB

[Paul]

Hi Srdjan,

Could you try sending Bob E77O another email asking him what his status is regarding being the E7 Co-Ordinator?

If you have no success, please let me know and I will send him an email.

I have also notified the WWFF Decision Team of this issue.

73,

Paul VK5PAS
WWFF Forum Moderator.

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