Last week the team of POTA/KFF decided that they want to run an award program independent of WWFF.
We regret this decision.However we will remain a global program accepting logs from activators that follow the WWFF rules, wherever you are. If your DXCC is covered by one of the 50 local programs that co-operate with WWFF, you should send your log to the national representative. Otherwise you can send your log directly to the WWFF log manager (logs@wff-dl.de).
At the moment activators of KFF references that want to work towards WWFF awards – or want give their chasers a chance to get points towards WWFF awards – will have to send their logs to the WWFF log manager.
If you are an FF enhusiast in the USA and want to represent KFF within WWFF, contact us at pr@wwff.co
Just to inform all usual DX stations I work on my activations I will send my log in for you to receive credit. W4JL Dave NC 73
Ditto de KD4CB
Jason, why have you holding back log submissions? Read the above. THEY ARE ACCEPTING LOGS!
They’ll probably delete this but I think it’s really interesting that ON4VT is posting this after resigning two weeks ago. Regardless, with the instability of the program, we needed to be ready to be able to survive on our own , and that’s what we’re doing. If you want to send logs to what’s left of WWFF go for it, then send them to them. If you want USA credit, then send them to us. This was not done this way by choice in any way.
Jason
Some time ago I applauded the initiative to take over the coordination of US activities. Immediately after the start of the coordination, new references were added. NPOTA has been taken over and many more have been added. It was not easy as a result of differences in the status of protected areas in the US compared to other parts of the world. Also, thanks to you, a degree program has been created, some inspired by what exists in other teams, others with original ideas.
The WWFF that you present as a dying program has provided logistical support for these activities.
Now that you are reneging on the fact that WWFF has been the one who has allowed all of this to happen, it seems to me a bad thing and fair play.
I’m glad to see the many diploma applications I receive from the US, which shows that this activity has caught. The fact that there are current stations that make more than 44 QSOs on an activation, and some even make over 44 DXFFs from different references show what may be the case for WWFF in the USA.
Personally, WWFF’s activities, even POTA, are a way of life that allows practitioners to have a daily activity, whether they are activators or hunters.
Unfortunately, and this you know very well, there are some different ideas. You tried a new way of driving. Unfortunately, the desire to be different has led to a whole series of divergences culminating in what has been happening in recent weeks.
If the reason is only related to its own awards program, it still exists and can be developed. Any team can and is free to act on it.
Perhaps the main problem is access to the Logsearch database. If you allow me to dare with a resemblance to LOTW. Here again, no log change can be made by each participant. As far as those double QSOs, so publicized and for which it was for some time, even the release of some KFF diplomas was stopped.
My opinion is that this will have to be solved. How? I still do not know, but as this possibility exists in other programs, it may be possible to achieve it.
Also in my opinion if there are people with programming skills, it would be good to create those program lines that can be added to Logsearch, even without them having access to the database.
But this must be treated wisely!
Have a nice day!
Propagation to be with you
Pit YO3JW
Jason, do you really think that KFF is a core of WWFF??? WWFF was vital organism before KFF and willlivbe without you. Please, stop thinking that you are center of the Universe!
Not sure how you got that out of they all resigned and we had no support, but whatever. It’s over and we’ve moved on. Good luck.
While this comment will probably never be posted as the posts are moderated, so It is amazing and so coincidial that with so much actual documented “hard evidence” to show to the contrary, so many who stated they were uninvolved or removed from interest are suddenly so interested and engaged.
Very 73 to all de Jeff / KB3ZUK
I’ll be sending my logs to both programs.
73 44 de K2FI
I still want the little red “x’s” to turn to green checks on my activations. I’ll keep uploading my logs here as well.
As I’ve posted in other threads, I will continue to upload KFF-xxxx logs to any USA Activators looking for someone to upload their logs. A hold on KFF logs was never imposed by the folks at WWFF. Logs can be updated any time. My e-mail is posted on QRZ.com. 73 & 44 de N1TYH (Steve)
“for any USA Activators” (typo above)
Minor surgery turned into months of complications but now I have a release to travel. The new ICOM-7100 (still in the box) was purchased with the intent to resume activating where I left off a year ago but no….you will not find me on 044 again. The smell is rancid and it is not coming from across the Pond!
Life is too short to waste time in a skunk fight!
John
AE5B
Hi John
Allow me to want you good health and have time for your favorite activities.
Indeed, life is sometimes too short to do what we want. It is good to take the pleasant part and leave aside personal ambitions.
Unfortunately, sometimes it is difficult to distinguish between what is good and what is bad.
Life will show us the right path. Let’s hope it will not be late.
As it is written on the WWFF ‘s certificate, at low level, for activators and hunters: “Together we are stronger!”
I hope for it!
Pit YO3JW
Lets stop ALL the Nonsense. Jason took a Vote and based on the different directions the majority of KFF people voted to adapt our own program. That said, I’d be Mighty happy for Jason and Whomever at WWFF to get their collective minds together and all logs uploaded to the KFF Program be Also uploaded, by KFF, to WWFF… Everyone Wins. Ron, K4AKK
LOTW, QRZ, ALL Logging Programs… they all Co-Exist and make uploading easier.
Ron. I certainly agree that this entire episode is a chamberpot full of nonsense but there was never a “vote” involving the majority of the “KFF people ” and I am a bit puzzled as to who you might include as a voting member of the KFF people? Activators on Jason’s KFF-WFF page? Chasers on his page? Maybe you need to have credit for 10 KFF sites,? 100 sites? 10 parks worked and an equal number of activations? The possibilities are mind boggling but I doubt if any of this is the case. Apparently the decision to attack a vulnerability of a major global award and then attempt to undermine the sponsoring organization’s credibility originated with a few extremely important program participants. Who they were, what gave them authority to speak for us??? We will never know the answers but we must rest assured that their actions were taken in OUR best interests and they know what is BEST for us. In other words, get in, sit down,and shut up or you will not get to play with their toys. Ego is a four letter word. It is so important that it doesn’t need another letter.
John AE5B